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有人先學 OO.o 再學 M$.o 的嗎？
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You don't need to learn many commands if you don't want. Ubuntu, Fedora, SuSE, they all come with nice GUIs. But commands are often faster and more powerful.
The same applies to OO: You can move the mouse up to "Edit" and then down to "Find & Replace" - or you just press Ctrl-F. The keyboard is faster...
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As I said, I'm using Gentoo on my desktops (and on our school's servers). I can read Chinese just fine (font settings) and 有時候甚至可能寫中文。But I keep my desktop itself in English, that's easier.
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http://www.sun.com/software/looking_glass/
http://www.sun.com/software/looking_glass/demo.xml
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No, they go mainly for Windows users:
People who don't want to know why it works use Mac OS.
People who want to know why it works use Linux.
People who don't want to know why it doesn't work use Windows.
OS X is nice and convenient, but I have more freedom on Linux. Really bad that OO is not yet available as native OS X application. I still have to use NeoOffice (a bit slow due to Java) on the Mac.
alexylee 寫道:
Linux 的缺點就是要背一些指令，這些指令和習慣的 DOS 差別較大。當然 X-Window 提供了方便的圖形介面，但仍有改進的空間。
You don't need to learn many commands if you don't want. Ubuntu, Fedora, SuSE, they all come with nice GUIs. But commands are often faster and more powerful.
The same applies to OO: You can move the mouse up to "Edit" and then down to "Find & Replace" - or you just press Ctrl-F. The keyboard is faster...
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而處理中文能力能也與日俱增，不過當成 Desktop PC 仍在觀察中。
As I said, I'm using Gentoo on my desktops (and on our school's servers). I can read Chinese just fine (font settings) and 有時候甚至可能寫中文。But I keep my desktop itself in English, that's easier.
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可惜 Linux 沒有這種類似的介面，不然就很棒了。
http://www.sun.com/software/looking_glass/
http://www.sun.com/software/looking_glass/demo.xml
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而 MacOS X 顯然在易用性上優於 Linux，也有不少 Killer Apps，若明年轉到 Intel-Base，可能對 Linux 有相當程度的衝擊。
No, they go mainly for Windows users:
People who don't want to know why it works use Mac OS.
People who want to know why it works use Linux.
People who don't want to know why it doesn't work use Windows.
OS X is nice and convenient, but I have more freedom on Linux. Really bad that OO is not yet available as native OS X application. I still have to use NeoOffice (a bit slow due to Java) on the Mac.
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"I am at a rough estimate, thirty billion times more intelligent than you. Let me give you an example. Think of a number, any number."
"Er, five."
"Wrong! You see?"
Douglas Adams, "Life, the Universe and Everything"
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我指的是一般人把 Linux 當 Desktop 還有一段路要走。Linux 目前仍比較適合玩家，不適合一般老百姓。
我指的是 Linux 沒有 Wokplace Shell 介面，這是一種真正物件導向的介面，目前各種作業/操作系統上都還沒有看見過。
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是的，Mac OS 也會對 Windows 照成一些衝擊，情況仍待觀察。不過 Linux 暫時不會對 Windows 用戶造成什麼影響，特別在台灣。在台灣只知道：電腦 = Windows。
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Adolar 寫道:
As I said, I'm using Gentoo on my desktops (and on our school's servers). I can read Chinese just fine (font settings) and 有時候甚至可能寫中文。But I keep my desktop itself in English, that's easier.
我指的是一般人把 Linux 當 Desktop 還有一段路要走。Linux 目前仍比較適合玩家，不適合一般老百姓。
我指的是 Linux 沒有 Wokplace Shell 介面，這是一種真正物件導向的介面，目前各種作業/操作系統上都還沒有看見過。
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參照：而 MacOS X 顯然在易用性上優於 Linux，也有不少 Killer Apps，若明年轉到 Intel-Base，可能對 Linux 有相當程度的衝擊。
No, they go mainly for Windows users:
People who don't want to know why it works use Mac OS.
People who want to know why it works use Linux.
People who don't want to know why it doesn't work use Windows.
OS X is nice and convenient, but I have more freedom on Linux. Really bad that OO is not yet available as native OS X application. I still have to use NeoOffice (a bit slow due to Java) on the Mac.
是的，Mac OS 也會對 Windows 照成一些衝擊，情況仍待觀察。不過 Linux 暫時不會對 Windows 用戶造成什麼影響，特別在台灣。在台灣只知道：電腦 = Windows。
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I never claimed anything else...
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Yes, it's easier, especially in the beginning. But no matter what you use, you have to learn. Microsoft's marketing has made many people think that computers are soooo easy, especially with Windows. Just move the mouse, click here, click there and everything (in theory) works.
That lead to many people thinking "everyone is using a computer, so I too must use a computer". However, I don't want to learn. Computers are easy. Windows is easy. I don't need to learn, that's too complicated. I only want to use the computer.
Bang - computer infected or hijacked...
I'm teaching text processing and I use OpenOffice for that. But there are always two things most students don't really understand:
1) I'm teaching "text processing", not "OpenOffice". OO is just a tool we use for text processing. I use it for a number of valid reasons, but I could also use a lot of other programs.
2) Many students think: Why do I need to learn all this? I "can" Word! I can click on the icons and things happen! Isn't that enough? What settings? And what styles? I just click on that "B" and the text is bold, why bother learning more?
So, the mouse is pretty convenient in the beginning, but if you want to do "real stuff", you need to use the keyboard - even on Windows. (Windows console administration can be pretty powerful...)
tsairg 寫道:
非常確定，那是德文。
I never claimed anything else...
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對一般的end user（如小弟）來說，圖形介面應該會比較友善。
Yes, it's easier, especially in the beginning. But no matter what you use, you have to learn. Microsoft's marketing has made many people think that computers are soooo easy, especially with Windows. Just move the mouse, click here, click there and everything (in theory) works.
That lead to many people thinking "everyone is using a computer, so I too must use a computer". However, I don't want to learn. Computers are easy. Windows is easy. I don't need to learn, that's too complicated. I only want to use the computer.
Bang - computer infected or hijacked...
I'm teaching text processing and I use OpenOffice for that. But there are always two things most students don't really understand:
1) I'm teaching "text processing", not "OpenOffice". OO is just a tool we use for text processing. I use it for a number of valid reasons, but I could also use a lot of other programs.
2) Many students think: Why do I need to learn all this? I "can" Word! I can click on the icons and things happen! Isn't that enough? What settings? And what styles? I just click on that "B" and the text is bold, why bother learning more?
So, the mouse is pretty convenient in the beginning, but if you want to do "real stuff", you need to use the keyboard - even on Windows. (Windows console administration can be pretty powerful...)
--
"I am at a rough estimate, thirty billion times more intelligent than you. Let me give you an example. Think of a number, any number."
"Er, five."
"Wrong! You see?"
Douglas Adams, "Life, the Universe and Everything"
"I am at a rough estimate, thirty billion times more intelligent than you. Let me give you an example. Think of a number, any number."
"Er, five."
"Wrong! You see?"
Douglas Adams, "Life, the Universe and Everything"
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Ja, ein Weilchen. (so ca. 28 Jahre
) Mein Pass behauptet, ich waere Deutscher, einige meiner Freunde behaupten das Gegenteil...
Du musst aber auch schon ein Weilchen da sein...
alexylee 寫道:
Hi Adolar,
bist du in Deutschland gewesen?
Ja, ein Weilchen. (so ca. 28 Jahre
) Mein Pass behauptet, ich waere Deutscher, einige meiner Freunde behaupten das Gegenteil... Du musst aber auch schon ein Weilchen da sein...
--
"I am at a rough estimate, thirty billion times more intelligent than you. Let me give you an example. Think of a number, any number."
"Er, five."
"Wrong! You see?"
Douglas Adams, "Life, the Universe and Everything"
"I am at a rough estimate, thirty billion times more intelligent than you. Let me give you an example. Think of a number, any number."
"Er, five."
"Wrong! You see?"
Douglas Adams, "Life, the Universe and Everything"
). Bist du jetzt in Heimat? Aber ich bleibe noch in fremde Land.
不是GB，是簡體... 我在用scim上的智能拼音輸入中文。scim有四個mode：英，中，簡，繁。應該是我有點懶，所以還沒有查怎麼把予設改成繁體，所以我每次還要注意不要選到簡體字。
那，因為我用三台電腦（都Gentoo Linux，都scim），但是字型跟另外一些東西裝得不一樣，所以有時候就可能有一兩個簡體字...
那，因為我用三台電腦（都Gentoo Linux，都scim），但是字型跟另外一些東西裝得不一樣，所以有時候就可能有一兩個簡體字...
--
"I am at a rough estimate, thirty billion times more intelligent than you. Let me give you an example. Think of a number, any number."
"Er, five."
"Wrong! You see?"
Douglas Adams, "Life, the Universe and Everything"
"I am at a rough estimate, thirty billion times more intelligent than you. Let me give you an example. Think of a number, any number."
"Er, five."
"Wrong! You see?"
Douglas Adams, "Life, the Universe and Everything"
提供一下我掌握writer的方式：(我是非常熟悉MS-office，再轉換使用OpenOffice的，適應了，就沒障礙了)
一個文件，一定是由：字元→段落→頁面...所組成，文件的編輯，不外乎調整字元、段落、頁面，這些都在：格式(O)中。
如：要調整頁面大小：格式(O)→頁(O)→...所有選項，都瀏覽幾次就熟了。
當個別的調整(字元、段落、頁面)都熟了，
可以嘗試將常用的樣式，設定儲存起來，展現自己的風格、或特定文章、書籍、小冊子...的樣式。
開啟各類樣式可以用圖示按鈕，或F11。
一個文件，一定是由：字元→段落→頁面...所組成，文件的編輯，不外乎調整字元、段落、頁面，這些都在：格式(O)中。
如：要調整頁面大小：格式(O)→頁(O)→...所有選項，都瀏覽幾次就熟了。
當個別的調整(字元、段落、頁面)都熟了，
可以嘗試將常用的樣式，設定儲存起來，展現自己的風格、或特定文章、書籍、小冊子...的樣式。
開啟各類樣式可以用圖示按鈕，或F11。
